Latest Bear Hunting Kill Shots
bigbearguide asked:
over a douzen and half of bear kills at BigBearHunt Black Bear Hunting Camp
March 1st, 2009 at 6:05 am
Yeah, hunting rules. But is this hunting?
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Yes, my friend. I could ask this question too. If you hunt for food, it’s ok. If you kill to defend yourself in dangerous situations, it’s ok too. But, if you do only for fun, it’s not ok I think. What’s the fun of killing animals ? What’s the fun of killing ? Me being idealistic, I could never understand and accept this. I wish Timothy Treadwell would be still alive in these days. Peace.
March 6th, 2009 at 12:30 am
what is the point in killing bears?
March 9th, 2009 at 12:41 am
You’re a failure.
You Can’t even get a little bear down with one single shot. You seriously fail as a human being.
March 12th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Yes they may get injured and starve to death. It should then be our job to only interfere in a healing capacity. Hunting is not healing anything. The wild is a very violent place. Let it heal over time. We don’t need to hunt for survival anymore.
All mechanisms are natural. If you mean “healthy”, we have to let the wounds heal.
March 14th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
HOW DID I KNOW… That the comments section would be filled with idiots arguing. Hunting rules shut the **** up.
March 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
I understood that. But I don’t understand your ideal of peaceful. Animals would still get injured and starve to death, bison will still be eaten while still alive by wolves, wolves will still kill coyote pups on site, moose will still gore other moose leaving them with blood infections and slow deaths, male bears will still kill a sow’s cubs to make her sexual receptive, etc. Peace is a very relative term. And for self-regulation , alot of the natural mechanisms are no longer in place.
March 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
You can’t do that on a global scale though. The conditions do not exist or will exist, atleast not for a very long time, if ever. Thinking in those kind of terms is like living in a dream world, with people holding hands skipping across dewy meadows.
March 20th, 2009 at 3:34 am
I just want to clarify “Populations will regulate themselves. Over time, things will become more peaceful.” I didn’t mean to say that’s what would happen if the whole human population started to hunt. That’s what will happen if we go vegan.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 am
The high demand of meat in the world has lead to a serious problem requiring us to stop animal agriculture. Can you imagine if a population addicted to meat and not conscious of animal rights shifted over to hunting?
Populations will regulate themselves. Over time, things will become more peaceful.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
You’re right in that humans are very much part of the ‘entire’ ecosystem on Earth, which means our interference is unavoiable, but take a look at how we could be reducing our interference. Imagine if we freed up all the land being used for animal factory farming, and put it to use growing crops for local communities. Imagine if we did that on a global scale… we could save other nations from starving. We could allow the cows to live off grass and hay, which I’m sure there’s an abundance of.
March 28th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Yeah but you talk about “nature” as if it’s separate from you in terms of evolutionary responsibility. The reason the wild is so violent is because the entire circle of life is lost in a food chain. We help make it that way with our choices in the present. As humans who are capable of living without actively seeking to harm other sentient beings, we are in a position to evolve beyond that animal food chain, thus making the world more peaceful.
March 29th, 2009 at 5:03 am
***supposed to be “from” nature.
I’m not sure most people realize the implications of ceasing hunting. First thing that springs to mind is massive CWD outbreaks.
March 31st, 2009 at 12:14 am
Hunting is the exact opposite of a detachment of nature. Hunting is participating in nature as we always have. The argument i’m making is that the idea of nature that most people seem to hold is a farce. There is no ecosystem that is untouched by man. Look at the ungulate explosion that has happened in the U.S. Look at whats going on with the endangered mountain caribou (moose follow logging roads uphill, wolves follow moose, wolves eat caribou). Biologists suggestion= management hunts.
March 31st, 2009 at 12:55 am
& how about those aliens again? What if they decided Earth needed a bit of human population control and reduction? What if they thought our lives were so unbearable and full of suffering anyway?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
That means we participate in the causes of violence on all scales. We have to reduce that and let things heal.
April 6th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Did it ever occur to you that the wild be more peaceful if humans didn’t come barging in firing weapons? We have to take responsibility for our actions. We are just as much to blame for those violent causes of death as this separate detached entity you refer to as “nature”.
April 6th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Where’s the unnecessary suffering? Natural death= starvation, blood infection, or bleeding out after being attacked. There is no net increase in suffering from hunting. Do you think the bears cares how ‘holistic’ of a death it has.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
The term “Earth Mother” is rather whimsical and people usually associate such terms with superstition and irrationality. It never occured to those people that maybe it’s metaphorical or representative of something very real that could be rationally explained if they opened their eyes.
April 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Well, what choice do I have? You stumbled right into my spiritual experience when you mentioned Native Americans. I can’t trace myself to any tribe though we suspect I have about 1/8 blood. You gotta understand that I agree wholeheartedly with much of native spiritual beliefs… except I take those teachings in the present context. It’s not a “tradition” to me. It’s an understanding of life. My animal spirit guide is the wolf.
April 12th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
oh god, you just said Earth Mother. I was waiting for that.
April 13th, 2009 at 12:40 am
If we were to stop hunting, that would make the world a better place because there would be less unnecessary suffering. With you making the decision to stop taking life with your own hands for unnecessary reasons, makes the world all the more peaceful. That is not just superstition or wishful thinking, it’s sound logic based on an understanding of evolution and scalar adaptation.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:42 am
ya, i stay out of the global warming debate because i only got a c+ in climatology.
Seen an article on buying fresh fruit in the winter and how intense the carbon foot print is. Either major fossil fuel to transport from more tropical climates or huge amounts of natural gas to heat greenhouses in the more temporate climates.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:35 am
For a very long time, native people have needed to hunt for survival. This is no longer true. According to their way, all of creation is sacred and should never treated in vain. The unnecessary hunting of animals is a very vain course of action. Sure, it was wrong what has been done to them and their way of life was far more balanced then those who arrogantly conquered the americas… but that doesn’t mean they are exempt from listening to the cries of our Earth Mother.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Global warming, I don’t know. I stopped taking the whole scare seriously once I saw “an inconvenient truth”. I’ve heard most scientists don’t even think it’s real, but I haven’t done my homework with regards to that.
What I do know is that animal factory farms are heavy point-source polluters and because of how centralized they are, require heavy fossil fuel consumption to maintain and transport their products (i.e. mutilated animals).